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Kustombruce valued contributor
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tonynoosa valued contributor
Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 556 Location: noosa Queensland
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: hey |
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Dam I have a mirror in the bathroom that I shave (parts of my face) with and it ain't that shiney.Hehehehehe
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jimmy_d Full Licence
Joined: 29 Aug 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Melbourne eastern suburbs
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Interesting project,enjoyed reading the progress etc and the unfortunate difficulties that arose but I guess that happens to all of us at times.Your tray does look like it falls to the back but it also looks fairly level if you look at it without taking the rest of the car into account,maybe the setup did not take into account the rake of the chassis once sitting on the road,just a thought! My project has temporarily stalled so I am enjoying re-reading other peoples project threads until I can get going again,hope your track problems are sorted and your on the road soon..
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Kustombruce valued contributor
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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I need to drop the front about 40 mm, so the top of the front tyres are level with the guard. the rear needs to be played with as the tyres are about 40mm smaller in diameter than the ones which came off.
That might fix the tray angle, smaller rear guards will also help.
PS: The Battery has died (permanently) so looks like I will have to re design the battery box to fit an Optima DC51. at least then I can have the radio on with out the battery dying.
Bruce
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tonynoosa valued contributor
Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 556 Location: noosa Queensland
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:03 pm Post subject: same o |
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Bruce I had the same problem with my tray.
I added 40mm of timber across the back of my rig to get a better stance.
my first thoughts were the lower the front but it all went to buggery so to the rear I went Just meant longer bolts.
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libbor Banned for bullying.
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 1341 Location: Ghoulbon
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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So it looks like we are back to
1284mm for the front
1278mm for the rear
with up to 25mm more if you need it
Correct?
Cheers
Libbor
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Kustombruce valued contributor
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libbor Banned for bullying.
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi Bruce
Looking good, Sometimes that vsb14 is a real bugger , isn't it
I didn't realize that axle tubes were that thick.
Good old toyota
See you tomorrow
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Kustombruce valued contributor
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: |
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The axle tubes surprised me as well, I was thinking they would be 3mm but they are about 7mm
It seemed to take forever to cut through them with the cutoff saw, at least I could get some penetration with the welds.
I need to take if for a drive to see if I have sorted out the axle tramp by re setting the pinion angle.
let you know tomorrow
B
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Kustombruce valued contributor
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Took Clockwork for a drive, still tramping badly, diff is rotating about 15 deg due to the torque of the engine. So I have designed a steady bar which will run from the top of the diff at the back and the front will be mounted to the cross tube which runs between the chassis rails It will be mounted to the bolts at the back of the diff which hold the plate on and the front will be adjustable.
Just hope it works.
Bruce
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PV_Mark I can do it
Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Posts: 23 Location: melbourne
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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A 4 link rear would be an easy conversion and will more than handle the torque therefor stopping the tramp. Mc donald bros racing sell kits and they are quite cheap.... Just my thoughts
Mark
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Re checked the front for track today so I can get ready to machine up hubs to get my track right.
only a small problem:
I have to bring the front wheels in 31mm to get the track to within 25mm of standard.
Based on the clearance from the side wall of the tyres (185/60/14), I have 15 mm per side or the tyre touches the trunnion/ swivel pin rubber.
So I will endeavor to bring the wheels in but remove the rubber for the engineer inspection, which should give me an extra 2-3 mm per side.
I will still be over maximum track by 14 mm if I want 6mm clearence.
so don't try and put tyres bigger than 175 on the front of a Minor or you will be over track or rubbing on the trunnions.
Clockwork is still pushing to my limits.
Bruce
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libbor Banned for bullying.
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:13 am Post subject: |
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yes bruce mine are 175 and the biggest i know i can go.
Why dont you shorten the control arms and the shock arms. it welds well as it is cast steel.
i haven't ruled it out for mine
that way you can have your clearance and your track will be right
So before you go butchering your nice hubs, consider this.
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Kustombruce valued contributor
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Not a bad idea, I have a lot of spares to play with.
I am still working out if I can get Diamond back white walls in 175 with allowable diameter.
I can always put the 185's on my Zephyr.
Bruce
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libbor Banned for bullying.
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: |
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if you shorten them, you can have the tyres you want on there.
I was talking to a guy the other day about shortening. he said he must have shortened or lengthened about 4-500 arms and has never had one break. He modifies speedway cars.
Working out the top one will be an art. its goes back on an angle. It needs to be right for the camber. Maybe its a good opportunity to give the morry some neg camber
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grant69 moderator
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:06 am Post subject: |
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If you shorten the control arms you would have to have the arms crack tested and weld penetration xrayed, you wouldn't want them failing at 100kmh sending you headlong into a semi
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libbor Banned for bullying.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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looking at those arms, it looks like they welded quite well. Is there a mathematical way of working out the tops? Or is it a tack and see operation
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Kustombruce valued contributor
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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No problems with the welds, I put a big v in them so got full penetration, mig didn't play up, I have left most of the weld in place as it will sit between the pressed steel plate, it inside will be behind my tube shock mount.
I have looked at the top mount and I will make a jig to hold it all in place, but I think it will be a cut and see approach, glad I have a few spares to play with.
Maths is bloody hard when you get older.
Bruce
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libbor Banned for bullying.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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from memory its on a 45deg angle so i think you will probably have to take double off ie 36mm.
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