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Necros87
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: slugish starter Reply with quote

i am guessing this is a simple 'either battery or starter' answer but i figured i might consult a couple of people with a little more experience in the matter.

running an A14, with from what i remember, the correct battery for it.

if the car is cold, sometimes the crank speed is quite slugish to start, but after a couple of turns it speeds up to more of what i would expect.

first up, i thaught it could be the battery being half flat (it had been sitting with little movement while i was doing my tail lights) but it is charged up and currently at 12.6V

so i checked the crank voltage to see how buggered the battery is. it sits at 9.6-10V.

this leans me towards the starter being on the way out. but if anyone knows of something than the starter, like some 'upper left hand crank gyroscope dohicky' that makes acceleration better while the car is caught in a tornado spinning at more than 200m/s clockwise in the northern hemisphere... it would be much appreciated if you could pass on the knowledge

thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glugged up with old grease & dirt, strip & a good clean & relube


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Trev, give it a good clean out and relube, also check your earths are all in place and not corroded, sluggish when cold could be a high resistance joint somewhere, I normally earth the engine via a starter bolt Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just pulled the starter down, and think i have found the problem.

it all seems clean (for a ~30yo part anyway) nothing being gummed up or anything, untill i looked up at the brushes. one of them is sticky (not sliding in and out freely) and is quite worn. i believe this to be the problem (starter only working on 1 coil instead of 2) the other 3 brushes look to have enough meat on them.

does anyone know where to get the brushes for this starter? pref in northern Sydney/central coast. but i dont mind getting it posted. i do have a pic of it which i will put up prob tomorrow.

now to get years of brush dust out of my nose...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so the uploading finally started working for me



as you can see the top one i quite set in.

upon second glance, it appears that the short one may have the same amount of meat as the others, just not pushed in as far. so i will have to get some more degreaser. and give that a shot. but if anyone does know where to get some more brushes i would appreciate if you could tell me... if only for future reference


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any auto elect will have them, should only cost $1-$2 if they are a bit wide you can file them down to suit


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep -better late than never, but just seen this and agree, simple fix-this time, well done all.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

most times a good clean will work, i have heaps of em if you need a spare to play with, Very Happy but i dont delivere


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gave it a good petrol bath tonight, the brush didnt extend any further, i will be going to an auto electrician tomorrow to get a new set. hoe he has them. but after the clean, it looks quite good Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Necros87 wrote:
gave it a good bath tonight, & IT didnt extend any further, Very Happy


have that troble all the time bahaha Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trev aus wrote:
Necros87 wrote:
gave it a good bath tonight, & IT didnt extend any further, Very Happy


have that troble all the time bahaha Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


it needs to be a warm bath


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's mine & i'll wash it as fast as i want hehe Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

sorry
Trev
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ps the grand poobar should be in bed by now is he goin to give me another holiday?????


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